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Comments on: The Democratic Party Isn’t Very Democratic http://penndems.org/archives/126 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:12:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Herman http://penndems.org/archives/126#comment-231 Herman Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:19:23 +0000 http://penndems.org/archives/126#comment-231 The only good reason that I've come up with for having superdelegates is that it is one means by which flexibility can be granted to picking the best Democratic presidential candidate at the Democratic Convention. Speaking purely hypothetically, suppose Candidate A beats Candidate B in a majority of primaries in early February. Suppose further that in late May a big scandal envelops Candidate A, who by this time is now notably ahead in pledged delegates. Having a significant degree of unpledged superdelegates would better enable the Democrats to avoid having to have Candidate A chosen as their presidential nominee at the late-summer Democratic Convention. I do, however, suspect that there are other, more Democratic methods by which a certain degree of desirable flexibility could be introduced into choosing the best Democratic nominee. The only good reason that I’ve come up with for having superdelegates is that it is one means by which flexibility can be granted to picking the best Democratic presidential candidate at the Democratic Convention.

Speaking purely hypothetically, suppose Candidate A beats Candidate B in a majority of primaries in early February. Suppose further that in late May a big scandal envelops Candidate A, who by this time is now notably ahead in pledged delegates. Having a significant degree of unpledged superdelegates would better enable the Democrats to avoid having to have Candidate A chosen as their presidential nominee at the late-summer Democratic Convention.

I do, however, suspect that there are other, more Democratic methods by which a certain degree of desirable flexibility could be introduced into choosing the best Democratic nominee.

]]> By: DCWQ http://penndems.org/archives/126#comment-223 DCWQ Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:56:24 +0000 http://penndems.org/archives/126#comment-223 Caucuses are anti democratic. Superdelegates are activists, party leaders, and elected officials who deserve a say in the future of the party. They are not some smoking bourbon drinking fat cats. do away with the caucus system which disenfranchises thousands. Over 4 million voted in the Cali primary. Less than 50,000 caucused in the Washington and Maine caucuses. Caucuses are anti democratic.
Superdelegates are activists, party leaders, and elected officials who deserve a say in the future of the party. They are not some smoking bourbon drinking fat cats.

do away with the caucus system which disenfranchises thousands.

Over 4 million voted in the Cali primary. Less than 50,000 caucused in the Washington and Maine caucuses.

]]> By: juan http://penndems.org/archives/126#comment-220 juan Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:47:27 +0000 http://penndems.org/archives/126#comment-220 I would like to let Senator Clinton know that Im proud of you. You truly bring a positive message to the american people. the Constitution says we are to promote the general welfare of the people. I know that to mean every single american not some, not most, but all the people. I firmly believe that your health care plan will definitely set the wheels in motion toward true universal health care. I believe you will move the troops out of iraq in a responsible manner that will keep our allies on the ground in Iraq safe and will also help us keep face with the other powers that be around the world. Most people I talk to as well as I believe you and Bill are a team and have always been a team and that is what angered the macho republicans in the 90's and why it was easy for them to spread a smear campaign on you and why a lot of men are looking to disparage you. Lets face it most boys want to control the toys. lol. On the economy I believe Clintonomics not Reaganomics is why we are not completely sunk as a country into depression in-spite of Bush and the republican congress best efforts to sink us. An important point that is not being properly examined i think because the right wing (fox news) and left wing (cnn news) doesn't support you. {Quick note: extreme conservatives and liberals only represent together 40% or less of the american population but 90 percent of the media in this country.} Most people are in the middle just like you. Matter of fact just like the state of Missouri showed. You are not getting much activist support because you see the whole solution and do not pander to the other special interest groups in this country, the diehard conservatives or the bleeding heart liberals. But instead have the pragmatic views that the silent majority represent. (Silent Majority being the thing not properly examined by the media.) You Senator Clinton are the voice of the silent majority aka the people that carry the country on there back. But if you do not get more of us to talk for you, you will lose because these other guys get free advertising from the media powers that be and all you get is negative press and joy from news anchors and pundits when you have a set back. My suggestion to you is hit the bricks and redouble your efforts because no one is carry a torch for us but you and no news organization is carrying the torch for you either. (triple your appearances per day that you currently make and on top of that go everywhere that your opponent has in effect spread your message as his own and disguised it in a bunch of rhetoric.) He is now more confident as is actually blatantly touting your agenda with minor modifications. i respect your originality and substance of message so will the american people if you go out more and deliver it. In you me and many others have found reason to believe in your pragmatic views, and in many other who just care about being uplifted instead of lifted up have leaned toward the great talker. Senator Clinton I wish you all the best and even though the silent majority is supporting you as the primary results show, you have to remember we are tired people who are struggling to take of our families, homes and bills and dont have the time to advocate for you as loudly as we would like too but you are getting our votes. We are counting on "YES WE WILL" to make a comeback because "yes we can" has been promised time and time again and all we ever have gotten is a "yes we tried". YES WE WILL 2008 I would like to let Senator Clinton know that Im proud of you. You truly bring a positive message to the american people. the Constitution says we are to promote the general welfare of the people. I know that to mean every single american not some, not most, but all the people. I firmly believe that your health care plan will definitely set the wheels in motion toward true universal health care.

I believe you will move the troops out of iraq in a responsible manner that will keep our allies on the ground in Iraq safe and will also help us keep face with the other powers that be around the world.

Most people I talk to as well as I believe you and Bill are a team and have always been a team and that is what angered the macho republicans in the 90’s and why it was easy for them to spread a smear campaign on you and why a lot of men are looking to disparage you. Lets face it most boys want to control the toys. lol.

On the economy I believe Clintonomics not Reaganomics is why we are not completely sunk as a country into depression in-spite of Bush and the republican congress best efforts to sink us.

An important point that is not being properly examined i think because the right wing (fox news) and left wing (cnn news) doesn’t support you. {Quick note: extreme conservatives and liberals only represent together 40% or less of the american population but 90 percent of the media in this country.} Most people are in the middle just like you. Matter of fact just like the state of Missouri showed. You are not getting much activist support because you see the whole solution and do not pander to the other special interest groups in this country, the diehard conservatives or the bleeding heart liberals. But instead have the pragmatic views that the silent majority represent. (Silent Majority being the thing not properly examined by the media.)

You Senator Clinton are the voice of the silent majority aka the people that carry the country on there back. But if you do not get more of us to talk for you, you will lose because these other guys get free advertising from the media powers that be and all you get is negative press and joy from news anchors and pundits when you have a set back.

My suggestion to you is hit the bricks and redouble your efforts because no one is carry a torch for us but you and no news organization is carrying the torch for you either. (triple your appearances per day that you currently make and on top of that go everywhere that your opponent has in effect spread your message as his own and disguised it in a bunch of rhetoric.) He is now more confident as is actually blatantly touting your agenda with minor modifications. i respect your originality and substance of message so will the american people if you go out more and deliver it. In you me and many others have found reason to believe in your pragmatic views, and in many other who just care about being uplifted instead of lifted up have leaned toward the great talker.

Senator Clinton I wish you all the best and even though the silent majority is supporting you as the primary results show, you have to remember we are tired people who are struggling to take of our families, homes and bills and dont have the time to advocate for you as loudly as we would like too but you are getting our votes.

We are counting on “YES WE WILL” to make a comeback because “yes we can” has been promised time and time again and all we ever have gotten is a “yes we tried”.

YES WE WILL 2008

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